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fivemore
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: Mind over matter Reply with quote

Hey all,

I used to go by the name of "urban_model" but for some reason couldn't log-on so I created a new account. Anyhow, I've studied meditation and Qigong and decided that's the route I'm going. I believe I can grow as many inches as I want with Qigong and for those interested, I want to point out a few things that will help you overcome blockages:

1. The human attention span for adults is only 7 seconds and even less in most, in order to take advantage of qigong benefits you have to improve your concentration/attention span. You can do so with Qigong. But fullfilling this first step is important, if not you will have a difficult time.

2. There is a left and right side of brain. Left is logic, right is creativity. Some people use more of one side than the other. It is natural to keep a balance of the two to use the two daily. I.e, if you're in a classroom that requires you to use logic/left brain, you'll normally drift away in wonderland (mind-wandering) with the use of right brain imagining all sorts of things. If you're required to concentrate on something such as hypnosis, qigong, or anything that asks of you to imagine, you'll drift away into the left brain (logic brain), and think about real life events such as hanging out at the bar with friends the other night. It's rare that when asked to imagine one thing such as a purple dog, to mind wander and think about a blue cow. The two sides are always intertwined. The key here is to only tap into the right brain (creativity side) when performing Qigong, and leave the left/logic side alone. Because logic does not always mean it's true. Remember, not too long ago we thought the earth was flat.

3. Removing doubts: Believe it or not, whether you say you fully believe in Qigong and its powers, at the beginning, there is always some slight doubt. Anyone who says they have always truly believed in something 100% are fooling themselves. It is natural to doubt everything and question things before you can truly put your faith into something. This can of course be removed but first you must tune into yourself. This comes with practice.

4. You have to be in the right mood and right state of mind for this. I recommend that you practice Qigong (or meditation if that works better) 30 min in the morning, and 30 min at night. Make sure you don't go to bed late and tired for practice because it will have a negative impact on how well you will concentrate and chances are you might doze off.

5. Listen to some meditation music while doing this. It helps with imagination and visualization 100% more than it would if you were to lay in bed silently and it helps you tap into your right side of the brain more. Youtube "meditation.

6. This part is important. You MUST study Qigong OR meditation as much as possible on your own spare time. Read about it, study it, get familiar. Don't just read someone elses success story and duplicate their routine. It won't always work since everyone is different. And find a way that makes your mind connect with your body. Just like the lady from easyheight.com mentioned, do whatever becomes believable to you. If Qigong doesn't work for you because the whole "energy light ball" is too overwhelming, then try meditation and regular visualization of your body being taller. But don't give up, and don't stick to something that you don't feel is working.

To add some science to this to make some understand the make up of everything in the universe (short explanation). Everything is made out of atoms. The smallest unit that makes up the entire universe is called an atom. Atoms create molecules, and molecules create elements, everything that you can see, touch an feel today. But the atom in itself is 99% empty space, which means everything that you can see, touch, and feel today is 99% nothing (or energy as some call it but you can't measure it), the only reason why things can take such shape (all that you can see now) is because the electrons that circle around the nucleon create a electronic barrier that, when touched with other things it creates resistance. In other words, you've never really touched anything. It is hard to explain without visual examples. For example, the reason why you can touch things and not just "touch through" them since it's mostly 99% nothing is because when two forms such as a hand and a ball touching, the atom electrons shield prevent your hand from emerging with the ball. Whenever you touch something, there's actually a bit of gap between your hand and that item, the electrons prevent you from ever fully 100% get close to another item. So if this 99% of everything is empty and only 1% is something, that tells you a lot. Hypnosis is real, and qigong is real in a sense that you can use your mind to manipulate anything and everything. They have a great show on national geographic called "known universe", that discusses this in great detail, it's really worth a watch!

The chinese must have known about this long before scientists ever knew, because with almost every practice they have, involves the flow of energy, in which the whole world is made out of, everything is in fact energy.

I am going to leave this forum for a while to fulfill my goals and am going to give this 2 years to try. The first 6 months will be dedicated to practicing Qigong and to study it, the next 6 months will be to condition my mind and body through daily practice and the last year will be to grow 4 inches. I'm pretty sure it can be done much sooner, and possibly take longer. I only give it 2 years to make sure I won't give up before then. But there have been reports of people growing this much within a year and less. Then when I've achieved my goal I will try to come back and report. I know it will be long from now but, I've noticed the more time I spend on the forums the less I actually do anything about my height.

Meditation and Qigong is real, it just takes time, patient, and effort and it is certainly not an overnight thing. I've practiced about 3 times now, and it is not easy but each time gets easier. What I noticed today (which inspired me to write this post) was the sensations I felt in my legs. My feet had needles (you know when you sit on your leg for too long) and my legs would have very tingly sensations that would last for 1 second at a time. They are not very comfortable. It feels like your muscles are being tickled from the inside. Then when I got up to measure myself knowing that I hadn't grown but just for fun, I noticed that I was half a centimeter taller. This new height is taller than my morning height and I've never had this height throughout my whole life. The gains were not permanent as I did not focus on lengthening my bones/legs but rather the joints in my spine (an experiment I did with the guys youtube video which I'm about to show you).

Here's the link to the video of the guy showing how Qigong can work for height increase: Note that a lot of the user comments on this youtube video are also true testimonials from people who grew using his technique, but again, i recommend that you follow Zixia's method as she focuses on bones.

Meditationyoga:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lo3JHWkZuE

and here's zixia's link:
http://zixialinmm.blogspot.com/
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fivemore
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is some good meditation music for those who have trouble finding them on youtube, the ones on top are the ones I listen to the most, but they are all very relaxing.

If you're interested in downloading youtube songs go to this link:
1. http://www.videocodezone.com/youtubevideo1.php
2. Click on "video download", the tab on top
3. Paste the youtube link
4. Choose audio format and download

Zen garden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR3dM-GlZK8
Heart or Reiki: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWvS9llbSJ0
Embrace the moment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEwFwfWFnEA

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airozhal
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

awesome... i was trying to find good meditiation stuff. Good luck with your gains!
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akuma69
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the info mate.

fivemore, I would like your opinion on something. Can I listen to trance type songs to achieve the same results?

I remember i was doing hypnosis for height few weeks back (stopped now because something came up) for about 3 days. And on my 3rd day I had a very weird experience.

I was listening to techno/trance music with headphones while laying in bed at night with eyes closed. These type.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7CD17zJW2A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4tjEB8aIw4

they not exactly the relaxing type music. And while i was listening to it, i kept telling myself " tallerrr tallerrr...la la la...talleerrrr. i am talleerrrrrr" like going with the music and saying "taller" with the beat. I was enjoying it. I just went with the flow and let go. This was at 12 am. And after a while i felt like i went into " auto pilot". I lost track of time. Suddenly I felt myself wake up (but eyes still closed, i think its called regaining consiousness). I realised I felt awake in my HEAD only (music was still playing). it felt like my body was asleep. I couldn't really "feel" my body was there at all. I didn't know what the time was or how long I was in auto pilot for. And then straight away I started saying " i AM 5 foot 10 now!" and full started to imagine myself at THAT height. Imagined myself eye to eye with my 5 foot 10 friend etc. And I was believing it. After 10 or so minutes of this. I opened my eyes and my body awoke. I then looked at the time and it was 3:30 am. i only did the last part of imagining myself at 5 foot 10 for around 10 mins, so that means the rest of the hours was on AUTOPILOT!!!! 3 HOURS!!! and i thought i only went autopilot for 20 mins.

Could you give me your input in what happened here fivemore?

Cheers
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

akuma,

I don't recommend listening to anything that's upbeat like trance, hip hop or rock. There shouldn't be any lyrics either. The only words you should listen to are grow taller suggestions whether it's spoken in your head, out loud, or through a tape. Meditation music is not necessary if you prefer silence but meditation music will help.

Meditation is such an individual thing, sure, maybe there is some meditation master out there who can have loud rock and trance music at the same time playing in the back ground and two people fighting in the same room she's in with a tornado threatening to tear down her house and she's still able to meditate and enter her subconsciousness but this is very hard to do and it takes a lot of practice and sacrifice.

So since you're new to this and you will be new for years to come, I do not recommend it. I can't tell you what happened in your experience when you 'blacked out' while listening to trance and self hypnotizing, all I can do is guess that you managed to take yourself far away from your current state but I doubt you would grow tall that way.

I dont like the term hypnosis and find meditation to be more accurate, and you do have to be aware of your surroundings and let your subconscious mind and body connect and reach a higher state. Imagining that everything around you, including your body is just energy and that you can with the power of your mind change the shape and size of your body.

With meditation you need to be calm, focused, aware of your surroundings, and concentrated, so I don't suggest you listening to upbeat music while you meditate.

Also.. if you want to know for sure whether you're doing it right or not., you should feel your body, or in my case, legs, tingle and stretch without any physical effort. It's as is there are tingly sensations on your legs like they are stretching.

I've only had about 6 sessions that last for 30 min each so far so that's about 6 days of practice but I haven't done this everyday, it's been scattered throughout a 2 week period. However, my concentration and focus is much better than before and I'm able to visualize without mind wandering, and the sensations in my legs come faster and stay longer than before. This is good news lol.

I only came back to the forum to look for a link that someone posted recently so I not be checking the forum often, if anyone has any questions PM me but I can't guarantee when I'll be checking the messages.

Also, do not measure yourself everyday, or every week. Looking in the mirror to check your height counts too as well as when you walk outside and compare yourself to others. You have to maintain a positive attitude and keep your focus, do not lose your grip .

The hardest part about meditation is patience and effort.

Good luck
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm how do you prevent yourself from falling asleep?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Akuma, it's hard sometimes not to fall asleep. So all you have to do is try not to fall asleep, it's will power that's required.

I have grown 0.5 cm permanently, my night height and morning height is both 0.5cm taller than before. I still have growing pains and will continue meditating.

I grew 0,5 months ago when I only meditated for 2-3 weeks and stopped since, due to laziness.. I plan on growing 4 more inches until I'm 5'8 and hopefully that'll be done by the end of this year.

When you grow you will experience pain in your joints: Knees, ankles, wrists, elbows, shoulders and sometimes lower back. Sometimes these pains are there without you growing and sometimes you grow a little more. So pain does not always mean gain. But most likely there won't be no gain without pain. So Try to keep up the meditation everyday so you will grow evenly and get it over with, rather than doing what I did, meditating for 2 weeks and growing and have a persistent pain that slowly wore off without me continuing growth (Becuse i stopped meditating).
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i do get knee pain sometimes. And sometimes sudden shin pains. All this started when i started meditation. When actual growth happens, is the pain intense and consistent throughout the day everyday? or just random sudden pains?

do you have msn? it would be great to have a discussion about qiqong with you.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys,

I have practicing self-hyponsis daily since 2 months ago. I have been experiencing the same symptoms you guys have, namely pain around the joints (but not the joints themselves) particularly around the two ends of tibia. When I go to sleep, I will feel some burning pain around my calves and upper arms (similar to the "pain" when working out). At the beginning these pains woke me up at night, but now it seems to have reduced or I got adapted to it. I also notice my body temperature elevates a lot when I try to sleep and you can literally feel your heart beating harder and your blood pushing against your extremities. Even during the day, I will occasionally feel a twitch of pain at random location along my tibia. I think I am growing about 0.7 cm / month (I check monthly) but I haven't rule out measurment error. Do you guys have any suggestions on making this technique more effective so I don't have to worry about it being just an error? Thanks and good luck guys!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

0.7 cm in 2 mo = over half an inch, dos it not? Thats a pretty fast pace.
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